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$1,000 Lens vs $4,000 Lens — Are Cinema Lenses Worth It?

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There are a lot of reasons you’d rent or buy a cinema lens instead of filming videos with a still photography lens. In this video we discuss why. Watch the other video on the LensProToGo channel » https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvi0UOOi4lk (Note: Based on comments/feedback, I’ve changed the title from $150 to $1,000. For sample shots we used the $150 Canon 40mm “pancake” lens, not the 35mm L in the thumbnail.) In it we compared the $2,000 GH5 to the $20,000 RED Scarlett-W. Subscribe to the LensProToGo channel » http://www.youtube.com/subscription_center?add_user=lensprotogo ## Items Mentioned in this Video $150 Canon 40mm “Pancake” Lens — http://amzn.to/1RMIQ33 $4,000 Canon 35mm Cinema Lens — https://bhpho.to/2yFJFa8 Canon C100 Mark II — http://amzn.to/2qwwxDI Canon 35mm f/1.4 Lens — http://amzn.to/2xDQ5bm Rokinon 35mm Cine-Style Lens — http://amzn.to/2wUGXf5 *** // SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHANNEL // Click here to subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFHjtLWZRSCNno4Wv8NmHcg?sub_confirmation=1 // GEAR I USE // Here is the main gear I use to film my videos. Links are affiliate links that help support the channel. For all gear we recommend go to http://www.DIYVideoGuy.com/gear CAMERAS: * Canon C100 Mark II: http://amzn.to/1mN4NV3 * Canon 5D Mark III: http://amzn.to/1QqKCWS * Canon 60D: http://amzn.to/1QqKFSF * Sony RX-100 mk IV: http://amzn.to/20rmTun LENSES: * Canon 35mm f1.4 Lens: http://amzn.to/23rJMQN * Canon 50mm f1.2 Lens: http://amzn.to/1Ijcp9f * Canon 85mm f1.2 Lens: http://amzn.to/1n7Q6vX * Canon 24-105mm f4 Lens: http://amzn.to/20rmPLc * Canon 55-250mm f4.5-5.6 Lens: http://amzn.to/1QPg6qZ * Canon 40mm f2.8 Lens: http://amzn.to/20rmQyQ AUDIO: * Rode NTG-3 (shotgun mic): http://amzn.to/1QqLTgO * Tascam DR-100 (audio recorder): http://amzn.to/1QqLSJP * Shure SM7B (for voiceovers): http://amzn.to/1DWNX9Z MUSIC: * Art-List (Get 2 Months Free »): http://DIYVideoGuy.com/artlist LIGHTING: * Kino-flo Diva 401 Light Kit: http://amzn.to/202LCIV // FREE COURSES // Start Our Free 7-Day Email Course: Video Gear for Any Budget: http://www.diyvideoschool.com/courses/gear Start Our Free Adobe Premiere Pro 101 Course: http://www.calebwojcik.com/premiere101 Start Our Free Final Cut Pro X 101 Course: http://www.DIYVideoGuy.com/fcpx101 // FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL // INSTAGRAM: http://www.instagram.com/CalebWojcik TWITTER: http://twitter.com/calebwojcik
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Mychal Simmons (24 days ago)
I like the Rokinon alternative until I can rent the others
New funney tv (28 days ago)
Symon (1 month ago)
100% of people would love a set of CL. Most (me included) would never 'need' them.
Praepes (1 month ago)
My recommendation, if you really need common features of cinema lenses and aren't working on a Hollywood production budget, go for Samyang/Rokinon cinema lenses. High quality for the extremely affordable price.
Caleb Wojcik (1 month ago)
I have never used Samyang or Rokinon but have enjoyed using Veydra lenses. I found they worked well and resulted in a great image.
Dusty Boot (1 month ago)
Canon hacks.
Titanium Waffle (1 month ago)
I only shot With lenses designed for 35mm film cameras my favourites are (smc pentax 1977-1984) all on my sony a7riii
Philippe Manderscheid (1 month ago)
If you wanna have nice, smooth, on point focus you will always need a focus puller. I knoooow everybody does his own focus in the non professional movie business but focus is not only about shifting focus from A to B. An if you wanna have a focus puller you need cinema lenses with the distances on the barrel. Cinema lenses also allow smooth iris shifts from one stop to another stop when getting from inside to the outside. Yes, you don't always have to film wide open. You can close the stop and film at a stop of 4 or 5.6 or 8. 😲😲
Daniel Allen (2 months ago)
Super informative and accurate, love it! Just one thing that is subjective, its not Boh-ka (like boca burger), its Boh-Kay. It's a Japanese word, and there is only one way to say it. That's not even with the subtle accent. Just like Crayon isn't Crown or Water isn't Wah-tah. Sorry I actually loved this video, renting cinema lenses is my go to.
Caleb Wojcik (2 months ago)
Good to know, thanks for watching!
신영환 (2 months ago)
우와 삼양렌즈다!!!!!!!!!! 짱 !! ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 반갑다! 삼양렌즈 총판에 가서 렌즈좀 직구하면 안되냐고 쪼르곤 했는데 반갑구먼 삼양렌즈 홍보해줘야지 Using Rokinon f5.6 area, there is little difference from other lenses, but in full open aperture, lens diffraction degrades performance. 그래도 거짓말은 못하겠다. ㅋㅋ
Deena James (2 months ago)
No comparison because - They are both the same exact lens / just different body. *just the outside is made to be put on a cine camera or a still camera.
HoundDogMech (2 months ago)
Every true video camera from $200 to $20K has a parfocal lens system. Why can't/don't they make an inexpensive (Not $40 Grand) Parfocal lens for DSLR/Mirrorless cameras if they are so good for taking Video.
schloerg (3 months ago)
like in many other youtube videos your music-background-carpet is unbearable
FilmNerd (3 months ago)
Ugh I want a cinema lens now
ORISHA PHOTOS (3 months ago)
User creativity is the difference between those lenses.
jeffrey gleason (3 months ago)
what was the follow focus that you used. I couldnt make out the brand
Bala Photography MDU (3 months ago)
Adrian Proleiko (3 months ago)
Calling the CN-Es "cinema lenses" is more than a bit of a stretch.
warnutztheloser (3 months ago)
Amma Buy All of Them
blackjohnny0 (3 months ago)
Caleb, You are not Wojdzik, but Wójcik! :D It is pronounced as "wooycheek".
Nathan Davis (4 months ago)
for the intro you really should have had the cine lens on the right (your left). At the very least you should have introduced the cannon lens first
Superbustr (4 months ago)
Put a cine lens and a photography lens on an optical projector then you will clearly see the difference on the test chart.
svTjena Arbogaen burns (4 months ago)
I thought I should get to see some video clips how the lenses perform?
TIMS PRB102 (4 months ago)
Cool! I always thought T stop was TRUE Stop.
Craig Lowe (4 months ago)
this vid was more honest and less of an opinion than the other, for that reason u get a thumbs up thanks
BCVideo (4 months ago)
1:32 You need more focus talking about focus. ;) Overall, great video. Ty!
zzfour (5 months ago)
Good stuff lads.
Dharmendra Kumar (5 months ago)
Sir What lens should i use with Blackmagic Design URSA Mini 4K Digital Cinema Camera EF-Mount CINECAMURSAM40K/EF My budget is around $1500 USD
Dharmendra Kumar (5 months ago)
Sir can we use "Sony Sonnar T FE 55mm F1.8 ZA Full Frame Camera E-Mount Lens with 49mm Filter Sets" With "Blackmagic Design URSA Mini 4K Digital Cinema Camera EF-Mount CINECAMURSAM40K/EF"
FitLife Amrit (5 months ago)
Can you please suggest me which wide angle lens would be the best for 200D/SL2 for videos?
Caleb Wojcik (4 months ago)
I like the Canon 10-18 STM: https://amzn.to/2Mq3Oas
Alec Haas (5 months ago)
go green
Pooya Rastin (5 months ago)
You didn't mention one important difference which I think is the most important feature. On cinema lenses the distance meter is accurate and you can mark the distances you want to focus on the lens.
MICHAEL CRASH (5 months ago)
You guys are gods
MICHAEL CRASH (5 months ago)
Very very excellent I learned and subd awesome job bros
Rudy Ayoub (6 months ago)
great rundown
Rick Rizzo (6 months ago)
Fun content. Go Green!
Richard Randolph (6 months ago)
What set up did you use for the audio? Boom Mic or lav?
Caleb Wojcik (5 months ago)
kRx md (7 months ago)
Beautiful explanation. Very clear and straight forward. Thank you for this video.
CMH (7 months ago)
Je croyais bêtement que l'allais pouvoir comparer les images obtenues avec les deux objectifs. Erreur ! ces jeunes gens semblent ignorer à quoi sert un objectif, sinon à montrer le fonctionnement d'un follow focus (dont on se sert peu, d'ailleurs).
Andin Briwel (7 months ago)
You said, "On a cinema lens you'll get less, or next to no, focus breathing..." You should probably actually test that, because it's not always true. The Zeiss CP2 50mm compact prime, for instance, "breathes" quite allot - even more than the Canon 50 F/1.2L photography lens. But it also gives you more precise focus and far better color rendering.
Philippe Orlando (7 months ago)
I have a GH4 and I've recently rented several lenses Sigma 20mm f/1.4 DG Nikon mount used on speedbooster on my GH4 Sigma 18-35 1.8 Nikon mount used on speedbooster on my GH4 Veydra 16 mm MFT native mount Rokinon 24 mm cine lens, Nikon mount used on Speedbooster on GH4 I understand the point of cine lenses, such as the veydra and the rokinon as far as follow focus is concerned. They do behave like true cine lenses. But unfortunately after an intensive 3 day testing, I can testify that the two Sigmas are superior in image quality, in any aspect of image quality, to the Veydra and the Rokinon. So for somebody who simply can't buy a set of cine lenses at $ 3000 per lens, if I'm going to spend less than $ 1000 per lens I simply can't justify to by a Veydra or a Rokinon after discovering how amazing the Sigmas are! Sure, they don't have a focus system that allow the hook up of a follow focus system,but at my level in my game and finance I must go for the better image quality and just adapt as far as focus. Do you agree with me that the quality of the image is much more important that how the lenses focus? I must say that it's very easy to manually focus with the two Sigmas, you just have to do it by hand and it doesn't look professional but I simply can't give up the quality I've seen in the Sigma 20 mm 1.4 for a lesser lens that would have a more "cine" look. Any suggestions anybody?
howard KAHN (8 months ago)
i shoot with sony, canon and nikon bodies and they are all great cameras that give excellent results, however my sony SLT A mount camera bodies have two major features that lead the pack, first the Electronic viewfinder that allows you to see the finished product before you actually shoot the image which opens the door for many many other features and second is the body stabilization...........i shoot for pleasure....
Jas Bataille (8 months ago)
A cine-lens doesn't have better glass than a top still lens, you're paying for ease of operation, mechanics and build-quality. However, get some Rokinons or some Kowa Prominar primes or SLR Magic if you work in micro 3/4 (GH4, GH5-5s). Those lenses are all under a 1000$, and give about the same quality results than some of the most expensive cinema lenses, or at least 90% of that result. The Kowa's especially are a *steal* as they easily double-up as still photo lenses. So yeah cine-lenses are worthing it, try to pull focus with a still lens... and no, they're not all super-expensive!
Simon Gonzalez (8 months ago)
super !!
Michael Zukerman (8 months ago)
there is information that is 2nd nature to some of us and relative to others. One isn't better, it's relative or it isn't. When people take the time and effort to offer information to the general youtube audience it's always best not to expose the size of one's asshole in the direction of the mirror with a derogatory comment about "story telling." Use the information or change the channel. I haven't gone through and read all the comments but I'm betting the information offered here was useful to some people who are greatly appreciative for it. If that's not you and rather than moving on you chose to make a snarky ass comment, then please allow me to invite you to go fuck yourself. Thanks Caleb.
Dave (7 months ago)
Phil Toran (8 months ago)
talking about "cinema" and shooting in 30 frames? maybe more? AHHHHH!?!?!??!?!
the GLOSSA channel (8 months ago)
LA, or Miami?
the GLOSSA channel (8 months ago)
Cool. Thanks.
Caleb Wojcik (8 months ago)
LA. Venice Beach.
Michael Mystro Pierce (8 months ago)
Good to see you two working together great video and keep up the great work guys.
Jacob & Jacob (8 months ago)
Those exposed sensors though...
Sam Chaney (3 months ago)
Right? When he held up that Scarlet-W with the sensor wide open, at a beach with tons of silicate particulates in the air, I cringed.
Michael Faber (8 months ago)
lol 5:46
orfeo smania (9 months ago)
leaving the camera with no lens on it... the dust will have fun to stick on the sensor...
Fantastic video. Subscibed
You're welcome
Caleb Wojcik (9 months ago)
Thank you. :)
Hemanth Venugopal (9 months ago)
Sawyer Hartman copied this video 😎
Cory Johnn (9 months ago)
What is your 1st AC going to say when you show up with an L series canon lens that he cant throw his FIZ on. Cinema lenses ARE worth it, and the standard if you are a professional. Plus, on higher end Cameras, your L series glass starts to look like garbage.
bubz75 (9 months ago)
Great Vlog, enhanced my knowledge of Cine and Photography Lenses
Brian Cullen (9 months ago)
Awesome, now if I could just get a new pickup truck to carry it...
Josh's Films (9 months ago)
The canon cine primes and the Zeiss compact primes are the same glass in the photo counterparts just rehoused in cinema lens housings.
Lorenzo Morgan Jr. (7 months ago)
Josh's Films: I didn't know that. Good information because I've been debating between the two on which to rent for a potential film project (and possible purchase in the future), in which the Canon Cine Primes are more expensive.
WandreX _ (9 months ago)
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caroline and tigger (10 months ago)
Great video. Thank you for sharing.
Ira X (10 months ago)
What's the exact name track in the background??? Music only leads to art-list homepage.
Luca Glorio (10 months ago)
Open that Camera on the beach is a crime
Leonidas Grey (6 months ago)
Dude right.....not very informative either. I doubt amateurs are ever looking at a 20K camera, needed more than that.
NewFazfilms (10 months ago)
I am with a few others here. The features are one thing but the visual comparison would have enhanced your vid. Can't afford to even rent one of these cine lens' to see for myself. Good job anyway
Sheffy George (10 months ago)
Hi, isn't the F-number the ratio of the Focal Length of the lens to its Diametre in stead of the other way around as mentioned in the video?
Christopher Dobey (11 months ago)
Thank you for the info. Why were the talking head shots so soft?
Christian Nönken (11 months ago)
TL;DR - If you have to ask if it is worth it, then the answer is no.
Lucía González (1 year ago)
Hey Caleb, thank you for posting this video! I own a C100 mk1 and I'm hesitating whether to buy a canon zoom lens 24-70 f2,8 or the rokinon lens bundle  (24, 35, 50 and 85 mm  T1,5). I know that comparing a zoom lens vs. a prime lens is not quite fair or appropriate, but this is what we can do with our budget. Both options cost almost the same! We shoot mainly documentaries and corporate videos but we're thinking of shooting short films -and why not? a feature film- with this gear too. Since I know that you also own a C100, what would be your advise?
Jas Bataille (8 months ago)
The Rokinons are an absolute steal for cine primes at T1.5
Jas Bataille (8 months ago)
It depends what you wanna shoot with it. Filmmaking? Definitely get the Rokinons. A T stop is the equivalent measurement of an F stop, but way more accurate. F stops are just evaluation of how much light actually gets in, and usually, it's less than what the manufacturer write on the box. If you shoot primarily corporate, then get the zoom. In fact I would recommend a 70-200mm for corporate work. But, it is less versatile for clips and barely ever useable for cinematography. So the 24-70mm seems nice, but based on my own experience in corporate work, you do need longer focal lengths.
Marcel Plewka (1 year ago)
Could you please tell me the name of the song you used?
William Wallace (1 year ago)
oh naa nvm its venice
William Wallace (1 year ago)
reppin that newport beach?!
AdiusOmega (1 year ago)
They are super minor things and if you are an amatuer film maker or just getting started there is absolutely no reason why you should be spending for the best of the best. You'd be surprised some of the shit you see even in AAA movies that is shot with a 5d mark ii and standard L lenses. (Even the non L lenses can do some excellent stuff) It's all about making due with what you got and taking advantage of the strengths of the limitations. Steven Spielberg knew CGI didn't look good in daylight scenarious, so he did what worked best
Chumy Chum (1 year ago)
Which follow focus was that?
Caleb Wojcik (1 year ago)
Chumy Chum bright tangerine revolvr
Vikram Pinto (1 year ago)
thank you for the upload...very informative
Jay Lee (1 year ago)
Did a whole video with no actual visual comparison between the two- fail. Just a bunch of info of how come the more expensive lens is better (because of all the little specs and details) but didn't actually show us footage comparing the two lenses.
Caleb Wojcik (1 year ago)
+Jay Lee There are sample shots from each throughout. For focus breathing, chromatic aberration, and more. We test and then could assume the cinema lens was better quality, so we instead focused the video on the feature differences.
Sunrethy Kun (1 year ago)
vespucci beach!
ANT1PK (1 year ago)
You don’t necessarily need to pay that much for a good cine lens though, Samyang make awesome cine lenses
Fucked Gplus (1 year ago)
Not buyin that. Tho i would film with that. Just tell me what to shoot, pay me, and provide the tool ill provide the genius. Its called bieng professional
Rob Dymott (1 year ago)
What good is a Lense when you can’t tell a story?
Sam Valentine (2 months ago)
Writers don't say this. Only people on the internet who are still figuring themselves out say this. Film is collaborative. Every role is important.
Christopher Shivers (3 months ago)
I hate it when people say this. If you think the story is the only important thing then go write a book. A film is so much more than just words on a paper, everything needs to come together, the cinematography, the lighting, audio, set design, wardrobe, special and visual effects, and even the story. If anything is off in a film then the whole thing can be shit
test two (3 months ago)
Ted Sealey So true. I have way too much gear that my current talent would warrant. But I I enjoy trying.
Ted Sealey (3 months ago)
all the gear, no idea, nah these guys are OK but so true, seen it too many times, no lens is going to cover your boring non-creative arse ever
UR Vlog (4 months ago)
Rob Dymott 35,mm.good
Julian Fletcher (1 year ago)
HelgeStrichen (1 year ago)
so... are they?
Le Olaf (1 year ago)
Someone who wants to buy a lens for 4000 euros should know why he is going to do it. But still some nice facts about cinema lenses in this video.
B Mamree (1 year ago)
Very helpful videos, at the end "money can buy..."
tonebenderx (1 year ago)
Informative, but I would have liked it more if you demonstrated the difference in picture quality in a split screen.
Caleb Wojcik (1 year ago)
tonebenderx Thank you for the feedback. I focused more on the features and what it would be like to use it, since I assumed the more expensive lens would be better quality.
Hassen Charef (1 year ago)
Talking and talking and talking and not actually showing the difference between the two in the real world or by showing actual footage or side by side comparison! I could have just read an article as well. Doing this video is useless.
Rastinfilm (1 month ago)
thanks, based on your comment I just stopped watching it.
Durst (8 months ago)
Train Monrovia (9 months ago)
Did you not watch the video? They rattled off about 20 differences between cinema and photo lenses. Watch. Listen. Understand.
Hassen Charef (1 year ago)
Caleb Wojcik thak you for your answer and good luck with the next step
Caleb Wojcik (1 year ago)
+Hassen Charef Hey Hassen, you’re not the first to mention wanting more side by side comparisons of the quality and for future videos I will definitely include more of those than we did. My approach to this video was more on the features and differences for what it is like to actually use a still vs. cinema lens. Sorry if that wasn’t clear.
ISLANDTECH PTX (1 year ago)
I happen to use a canon 50 cinema, it was amazing!
Lt. Ling (1 year ago)
There is no way that $135 lens is that cheap
Lt. Ling (1 year ago)
Caleb Wojcik it just looks expensive though with the viewfinder or the thing on the lens that moves ur next vid should be on the best chepest lens
Caleb Wojcik (1 year ago)
+Lt. Ling The 40mm pancake lens in the video and what we used to for the sample shots was $150 when I bought it.
I'd only use autofocus in video, never manual focus unless I have to.
The pancake lens looks super awkward on this big camera :D Nice comparison eitherway :)
Green Plasticbag (1 year ago)
Full Pocus
Hans Beekman (1 year ago)
Good video, good explanation. Pity the music is a little bit distracting.
Greg Deverell (1 year ago)
Go Green Go White MSU
Newton Xu (1 year ago)
go green!
CyborgCollective (1 year ago)
I see focus breathing in Hollywood movies all the time.
Alex Barclay (1 year ago)
Pretty much, if you can afford it, yes it’s worth it.
Stephen Lentini (1 year ago)
What are your favorite cine lenses? I'm torn between the canon and new tokina lenses.
Stephen Lentini (1 year ago)
Thanks Caleb!
Caleb Wojcik (1 year ago)
Stephen Lentini The Tokina lenses are really great. You can’t go wrong with those. What I don’t like about the Canon ones is the aperture ring has the changes to close to together.
jpulley (1 year ago)
Where did they get the canon L lens for $150? I would buy 3 right now lol!
jpulley (1 year ago)
fair enough...
Caleb Wojcik (1 year ago)
+jpulley We didn’t take the thumbnail picture with the right lens, sorry about that. The shots with the $150 lens were the 40mm pancake.
much (1 year ago)
This is kinde of true but You missed most important thing in much higher priced line up and it is "quality of picture" you get from it. You see on this particular video is so much bluur and yes I mean bluur not bokeh. This is cause by lens choice. It is the same with color reproduction, contrast, dynamic etc :)
Áron Czirják (1 year ago)
What is the name of the music under?
Karol Wojcik (1 year ago)
Great video guys ;) keep doing great job
Kukov (1 year ago)
Was hoping for comparison shots.
An Coats (11 days ago)
+Caleb Wojcik so where's the comparison between the two Canon 35's?? Too much focus on you......zzzz
Durst (8 months ago)
It should - it costs many times more $
Caleb Wojcik (1 year ago)
+Kukov There are comparison shots for focus breathing and we more wanted to showcase features since it wasn’t really about which looks better. The cinema glass would look better in every shot.
Horatio Caine (1 year ago)
as a student that is not "some money saved", its being broke vs being rich
We Build Stuff (1 year ago)
big projects sometime require the fancier gear. That is why most companies rent their equipment.
Queen Elizabeth II (1 year ago)
This video is so hip and edgy. I cool now after watching this
Caleb Wojcik (1 year ago)
+Queen Elizabeth II Thanks Queen E.

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