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Canon EOS R: A Dollar Store Camera With Mercedes Lenses

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Canon EOS R has some great features, but is mostly an overpriced letdown. And so continues Canon's trend of making underwhelming cameras for consumers, as well as way too powerfully amazing cameras that no one can afford. Their dynamic range business model is too high, and that is what today's video is about. We will also discuss the new wide angle lens rumours for the RF mount system. 14-21 f1.4L, 16-35mm f2.8L and 12-20mm f2. My goodness. Patreon for Monthly Q&A https://www.patreon.com/vegetablepolice Monkey Strength ebook https://payhip.com/b/VyEG T-shirts and merch! https://vegetablepolice.threadless.com/ Music from videos! https://vegetablepolice.bandcamp.com/ Donate to Paypal [email protected] GEAR I USE: These are affiliate links. If you want to buy these items through the following links, I will get a small kick back and it will cost you nothing. Thanks! ;) CAMERA GEAR Sony x3000 for vlogs http://amzn.to/2zg1nRs Panasonic G85 http://amzn.to/2hMg9bx Mitakon 25mm F0.95 lens https://amzn.to/2Jkn6xf Sennheiser Me2 lav mic http://amzn.to/2Bgwm1d Mic J 044 lav mic http://amzn.to/2iIkSMo Zoom H1 http://amzn.to/2ziQTRl Blue Yeti http://amzn.to/2iJtSRx Sennheiser e935 http://amzn.to/2A3puX7 Rode Procaster http://amzn.to/2BAH57m Presonus Audiobox 2x2 USB audio interface http://amzn.to/2iKg6Ox Sennheiser HD 380 headphones http://amzn.to/2A0LH7Z Canon SX50 for superzoom photos of wildlife and space http://amzn.to/2iKgT1X MUSIC Reason 10 to make music http://amzn.to/2ENp4qp Akai MPK mini II http://amzn.to/2A1eNEH Best mini tripod http://amzn.to/2DAC4PB HEALTH STUFF Convict Conditioing Book http://amzn.to/2D8aO7r Markus Rothkranz Greens Formula http://amzn.to/2iL3o1Z FOOTWEAR Barefoot sandals http://amzn.to/2EZlvK4 Most comfortable shoes ever! http://amzn.to/2zh4E33 Gigabyte Saber 15 laptop Premiere Pro and Audition to edit video and sound
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vino hazel (1 day ago)
CC!!! I just saw a very interesting video by Gerald Undone. I know it is not an excuse for the Sony A7 III, but there is a workaround to make face tracking work in 4K. (1080p works without a problem at all) The catch is that you have to use an external recorder and need to disable internal recordimg on the camera. That adds another couple off hundreds of dollars to your bill, but it works. https://youtu.be/2BY0T_UY06U
Pi (2 days ago)
If sony release a camera with articilating screen or a panasonic with excellent auto focus then the camera race is over.
The Art of Photons (9 days ago)
That's some class glass!
Antonios Paro (10 days ago)
this is the best advice for any camera company: 'get your shit together'
Scott Wilder (10 days ago)
Can you see my past life in my left eye? Respect.
Chris Curry (10 days ago)
what the hell did you use to film that? great!
Marko Toric (11 days ago)
DId you buy a 4k camera and now you cant upload new content because you cant edit it on your laptop ? Why must we wait and find out new rumors by reading something =(
BROis (11 days ago)
Based on the creaminess and AF, I was thinking A7 III w/24mm GM. Pretty close... agree with the other comments, one of your best vids to date from a IQ perspective.
Fahiruz Razali (11 days ago)
Of course they're coming with wide angle lens for the 1.8x upsampled 4k crop.lol
Clive Bushnell (11 days ago)
I did not like that combination of Sony and Sigma you filmed on. Creamy creamy background, but not enough depth of field to fit your face in and the tracking honestly wasn't very smooth. I prefer your panasonic set up. keep making the videos - you're a funny guy. I watch them and I'm not even in the market for a new camera. Come to that,,,,,,,, what are you gonna do if you find your perfect camera? I guess that's not really such a problem - you can just keep chatting about the new stuff coming out in the search for your new perfect camera. What am I thinking - there is no perfect camera!.
LordArioh (11 days ago)
your brain is dollar store if you don't understand how shallow depth of field works on different focal lengths. the rest is complete BS based on no experience whatsoever.
DjCj-Video (12 days ago)
I just LOL watching you, keep it up, man!
Johnny4eyes (12 days ago)
I just talked to a Canon rep at a photo expo. Canon aren't telling their people ANYTHING. But the rep does not expect the next R, or any future releases, to have IBIS. (All together now: BOOOOOO) He also doesn't expect a new body within the next year. So we have the choice of buying the R just to get those primo lenses, or to wait. I'm gonna wait.
Bleiu Rownen (13 days ago)
I guess you are using the Samadhi Monkeys GM12345 camera? I learn some things watching and laughing with these videos.
ValiRossi (13 days ago)
Canon is all in. Well, maybe not for video.
Jason Au (13 days ago)
Sony A9 and sigma 35mm 1.4
Lynn-Kai Chao (13 days ago)
how about this?? https://petapixel.com/2018/11/03/yongnuos-yn450-mirrorless-camera-4-3-sensor-android-os-ef-lenses-4k/?fbclid=IwAR2iCaMizUTi8MDH99Mse5bAvhRLZZ17MCzzF8cadVcXiFE_uTWdYbeml2g
Zak Viemon (13 days ago)
Just recently picked up I think Panasonic will change to the flip screen after all 🤓 From 43 rumors: “Live Streaming capability Variable ND Adaptor that will work with Panasonic Sigma and Leica lenses Stronger and more robust Fully articulating Touchscreen Internal 4K Raw in 24/25 More details to follow.”
Muwex Tech (13 days ago)
I don't wanna win the guess, so I say Pentax K5 Mark 666. Anyhow it looks good tho!
Isä Ankka (13 days ago)
I just realized cameras are like video game consoles and some buy a weaker consoler beacause of the better exclusives, which are like native lenses. Eos r is like nintendo switch and the 28-70 f2 is like zelda botw or mario odyssey
Guillaume LeDique (13 days ago)
I think you used your cell phone and had a monkey track your face using an iPad 2 whilest whilsting ( <-that is a verb) the time away. In all seriousness, I watched 5 videos today, yours was the only one I watched through the end! Keep it up, you're going places… like to Mars... and more Autotune!!!
PlaneandSimple (13 days ago)
See if I got this right. So upon returning Eddie's equipment that he so graciously let you borrow, he noticed it all smelled like beef coffee and felt a little greasy. Hence why you're vlogging from his living room- he will no longer let you off the premises with any of his shit. Tried to get his scooter impounded too. didn't you?
cweb1988 (13 days ago)
agreed. They'll release something better than the R......but it'll cost like 4500. The A9 is not within normal people range. I'd say something around 3000 COULD still be doable for a "normal" person......but anything above that it......it's like Leica.......pointlessly expensive. Ah that's why the AF wasn't as good.....Sigma lens. I just want the A7000 with a native 1.4 APSC lens.
Alexander Hugestrand (14 days ago)
I would guess some Sony camera, due to the yellow background. The more I look at the EOS R though, the less I want it. It's too expensive for what it offers, since I'm only an enthusiast shooting stills. Even though I'm invested in Canon and have a bunch of lenses, it's cheaper to jump ship. If you buy it, make sure to get a Sigma lens. That way you'll get bigger biceps while vlogging.
potownrob (14 days ago)
A7S2 FTW!!
Dragonstone (14 days ago)
It's gonna be call the Canon RX1. Oops wait Sony has that name lol
Aron J Anderson (14 days ago)
My a7lll seems to face track. You can see it in my video here. Around the 27 minute. https://youtu.be/iO6wZUvDzC4
Ryan Meeks (14 days ago)
looks like you are filming this one on the EOS R if not that, then you must be filming on the Leica Zeitgeist 2.....
John Dawson (14 days ago)
Dude is camera Nostrildamas!
Jason Mueller (14 days ago)
A9 and advance copy 24mm 1.4 GM
breachbangandclear (14 days ago)
I think you should revisit why you got a m4/3 G85 over an APS-C or FF in the first place. Weight and size of a body+lens would have been a deciding factor when making that decision as a travel vlogger? Maybe a manual focus 50mm f0.95 lens wasn't the best choice (maybe something with an AF/MF mode that you could use to set and check focus on your phone out of frame), but as your last few videos show there's a lot of options out there for m4/3 and even more you may not be aware of. Perhaps have a look into the CM-AEF-MFT or EF-M2 speedboosters. They can be had for around $100USD and will let you use any Canon EF lens on the G85 with autofocus, EXIF data and stabilisation! There's a lot of cheap Canon primes and kit lenses with IS in them that go really wide when the 0.71x speedbooster is factored in. Of course you get some of that delicious canon colour science to go along with the exceptional video modes and quality of that tiny baby.. arm sensor in the G85. I honestly think that you have been consumed by the stats and specs of the FF mirrorless cameras on the market and have set your mind on something that may actually not be that beneficial to you, and will cost you a lot of cash.
breachbangandclear (13 days ago)
+Camera Conspiracies ALL the same features of the G85 with a wider lens and good auto focus - did you just give away what camera you trying to make us guess? I still have no clue.. will leave that to those who know more than me. The comparison video you did between the FF Sony 50mm vs m43 25mm was particularly interesting to me, especially how there were some differences between FOV and bluriness. Did you ever figure out why there are those differences? Thanks heaps for the reply mate, keep up the interesting videos. If you haven't already gone south to BKK and checked out the upper levels of Pantip Plaza, then might be worth checking out next time you're on the move around there - they have some insanely cool camera gear, almost like they belong in a museum level shit and you might be like a fat kid in a candy store, only skinny, not fat and the candy will be expensive lenses.
Camera Conspiracies (14 days ago)
My needs have changed, that's all. I got the G85 knowing it couldn't auto focus well, and I was fine with using manual focus. I just wanted a professional look with some shallow depth of field and it suited me well for years but now it's a pain in the ass to set up lol. I want all the same features of the G85 with a wider lens and good auto focus ;)
Greg Nelson (14 days ago)
Makes my day when I see another video to watch from CC. My sad pathetic life revolves around this channel lol.
Denis Sytmen (14 days ago)
10k subs!! Well done
NavinReviews (13 days ago)
lol, i like the way you crack jokes suddenly :P.
Camera Perv (14 days ago)
I knew it was Sony because of the bad skin tone.
Arun N (14 days ago)
canon m50
Lunascope Media (14 days ago)
A7iii but don't report me to the police
Samuel Westknee (14 days ago)
Camera u are using = Nikon DL
My fav channel. You're either filming on a Sony or Canon but it's probably Canon bc I know you love seeing yourself. So I'll guess you're ironically filming on an R.
Steve Wood (12 days ago)
Hey Tony! Nice to see you here 😊 I don't think there is a flippy screen. He loooooves peaking on the flippy screen. But he hasn't done it once in this vid. And the blurry background indicates full frame. But I don't think it's 50mm, maybe a bit less, like a 35mm F1.4-ish. So most likely a Sony. And he did play around with an A9 not too long ago. And I think the A9 belongs to the misterious dude in the background :-P
Camera Conspiracies (14 days ago)
Close Tony ;) Or Chelsea ;) If only I had won your Canon R lol.
Ah dammit I was wrong. Well seriously for your videos the R would be the best.
Oh, the lens. Looks like 50, and fast.
Mik Ban (14 days ago)
You're funny.. but you take IBIS way way too seriously... Other than couple of cameras, none of the implementation of IRIS is good especially with a wide angel lens (e.g A7III). I am sure you have looked at EOS R vs other cameras stabilization tests on the internet and I didn't found a single one where EOS R was that much worse where it is unusable.. Youtubers are buying it over many cameras for some or the other reason.. Photography was /is/ will never be that much gear dependent. Although I get your point your requirements... A camera for you should be out soon
Carl G (14 days ago)
G85 :)
MaximumEfficiency (14 days ago)
I saw a brazilian meat eater in the background :)
Fabien Mathey (14 days ago)
You prbably already know these but maybe you should check out potato jet's video comparing the a7iii and the eos r... Or this video: https://youtu.be/jL7YojU2LFE that might help you too... Plus I hope that Peter Greg does a video on his sharpening procedure of the camera. And then there will not be much of a difference. But apparently the video gets soft every time you activate the electronic stabilisation. Cheers.
brandon mayorga (14 days ago)
Fuck it, Canon 6dm2 35 1.4.
AmaCinematographer (14 days ago)
There is 10-18mm for the apsc
Gaming & Wine (14 days ago)
The picture quality was good but not impressed with the focusing. Few times where it focused and then went out again.
peasant vasea (14 days ago)
An EF not focusing natively? Are you kidding? The R system have more connections and a faster rate of transfer, but that adjust just fine for the older lenses that will focus as usual. An EF adapted lens is native in behavior as long as there is dual pixel focusing. But yes, I understand if you just want an R lens.
Camera Conspiracies (14 days ago)
I've seen it struggle, I'd have to test it myself.
Roberto Carmeli (14 days ago)
A9 plus 85 f1.4?
Roman The Explorer (14 days ago)
You recording on some canon with 35 1.4. But could be sony though cause i dont think you have flip out screen
The Emo Emu (14 days ago)
The R seems like a placeholder to me. The lenses are amazing but they're likely just releasing the initial R to have something to put them on while they work on a better camera. At least that's what I'm hoping is going on.
seacow2001 (14 days ago)
eos r, 50mm f1.2. I love mine and am more happy than when I bought the a7ii.
Hector De Jesus (15 days ago)
beatboxerjonasz2 (15 days ago)
im using a73 in 4k and wifi and it works, i dont need flip out screen. people were telling you that. also using sigma 35.
Danny Jones (15 days ago)
I dont have any cameras nowadays but i thought a sony full frame would focus better than that. So maybe Sony lens focuses faster
Wudang Academy (15 days ago)
I just got the Olympus 7-14mm F2.8 it blows most ultra wide angles out of the water... and the focus snap out the ring is very convenient.
Elzo78 (15 days ago)
For some reason I knew it had to be either the Sony a7riii or the Sony A9. The A9 was my first guess. I knew it was Sony because I saw your friend in the background that owns both those cameras hahaha.
Danny Jones (15 days ago)
Dont diss the vw bug. I thought you were going to say datsun.
Tim Tümpel (15 days ago)
watching your videos in 480p at best and its too sharp already. get the nokia 6210. its supercheap, so u can buy a few hundreds on stock
Emmanuel Santiago (15 days ago)
Filming on some alien f1.4 technology! With detachable flippy screen/phone haha
Pavel Mishurov (15 days ago)
GM 24 f1.4 on an a7 or a9 gotta be cool for video, get hold of it some time in the future
Ilura Jawili (15 days ago)
You should try Sony A5100 and attach any lens that you like. The auto focus of that camera is amazing (i think) and it's damn cheap...
Mike H. (15 days ago)
Your using Sony a9/7 and either the 16-35 or the 55 1.8. The give away is that your in potatojets room. Dang I was close!!!
Mike D (15 days ago)
About 3 mins in to video. I'm gonna guess the A9 with a Sigma 35mm.
dutchvideoshooter (15 days ago)
Hey we were together on 43rumors website! :D My guess Canon M50 with 22mm F2. It cant be M43 because that always do 1 hunt on the background :) Camera says just checking!
Paul Morran (15 days ago)
Such passion!
kirkelicious (15 days ago)
Your eye looks browner. What's wrong with you?
SittingNow (15 days ago)
I just used the R this weekend. The adapter worked perfectly with the 16-35 2.8 ii, the 10-18, and even the excellent Tokina 11-16 f2.8.
Bengt Tolkis (15 days ago)
The face tracking also works on the Sony A7R II and A7S II, while connected by Wifi to a mobile device. They don't just show the "tracking box" on the remote App. But that is only when recording 1080p.
John Gilchrist (15 days ago)
Your Hero potato jerk just bought a canon, and he likes it, what do you say to that then? apparently he didn't see Max's comparison video before he went shopping.
Camera Conspiracies (14 days ago)
He already had Canon lenses, I don't think he would have bought it for the current RF lenses.
jrskeide (15 days ago)
Potato head is a Canon bitch. Can be thrusted no more than Jason Lanier with a Sony.
Chima Chinda (15 days ago)
Fuji XH-1 with the 56 1.2. My guess. 😀
Chima Chinda (15 days ago)
Either that or the X-T3
Throttle Addiction (15 days ago)
Spend the extra $3 and upgrade to a shirt with sleeves, FFS. Sponsors aint gonna give a high-end camera to Bubba-Joe for appraisal.
Romarides (15 days ago)
Sony FDR X3000 with a SIGMA 13.2mm F.049
Roland Kaiser (15 days ago)
Perfect skin tones👍. Which picture profile do you use?
Bill Kigathi (15 days ago)
Wait a minute... This isn't the g85🤔🤔🤔
dauxanh 64 (15 days ago)
Sony: A7III stack BSI Sensor + Flippy screen, 60fps 4k optic stable even smaller body 2000$ dollar every camera in the world : FUCKING DEATH
Peter Cseszarik (15 days ago)
I have the Sigma 35mm f 1.4. My favorite and sharpest lens. Unfortunately I have an APS-C camera so it's now really a 52mm. Fantastic lens.
MDF RESCUER (15 days ago)
Good video.
Andrew Bristoe (15 days ago)
Waiting on the ef efm speedbooster and a stellar m camera i believe sort off
Andrew Bristoe (15 days ago)
Tricky one sometimes that g85 can focus like a focus but odds not g85 oh yer that second one g85 all the way blurred out lets bokeh everything!
Joe DeVine (15 days ago)
Depth of field is nice!
teslar1 (15 days ago)
The focus is over shooting and pulling back so it definitely is dual pixel. I’d say it’s a Panasonic with contrast focusing
pats rpo (15 days ago)
O my God !! How did u slapped the sigma elevator on sony A9 !! Poor A9.. ;-) Nice Sigma 35mm output.. though missed focus few times.. due to thin dof... f1.4
Mike Mears (15 days ago)
I knew it wasn't the g85 coz it wasn't over exposed ;-) I guessed Sony coz it looked good
LDMcFear (15 days ago)
Man I thought you finally decided to test the Nikon 1 j5, I was wrong ☹️
Ramon Solorio (15 days ago)
You’re literally always in a state of perpetual pre-laughter. And it makes me laugh. But completely tho. Like, pre-during-post laughter. 👽
Ehmahgerd lol (15 days ago)
Canon eos r beb 😘
XuQi Feng (15 days ago)
Sony body = Audi; Sony lenses = repair service located only on East/West Coast.
PeterGregg (15 days ago)
Hi Kasey - great video as usual, thumbs up :) Here is the "rules" on face detection for the Sony's. In 1080 recording mode, you get full face detection autofocus no matter what (unless you turn it off yourself lol). In 4K you get face detection autofocus ONLY when there is NO connection to the HDMI port and when the wifi is not turned on. You cannot even have an empty connected-to-nothing HDMI cable plugged into the HDMI port without face detection autofocus being turned off. By using an HDMI connection (of any type, includes monitor OR recording device) your face detection turns off. Plain and simple. However your autofocus does NOT turn off. The camera continues to focus by it's normal detection mode, but not face detection - meaning the autofocus does not turn off just cause you use wifi or plug a plug into the HDMI port, the camera just steps down to a lower version of auto focus. There is no way around this, people can swear till they are blue in the face :) Anyone that says otherwise, needs to make a video showing the LCD screen with 4K on and a white face detect box operational around a human face following it around the LCD screen. Just won't happen, it's in the manual and it is true in real life. This includes the A7 III, the A7R III, and yes the A9 :) So, A9 A73 A7R3, use wifi or plug ANYTHING into the HDMI port while in 4K mode and your auto focus steps down to regular autofocus mode only. In 1080, you can use anything anywhere and it will work with the highest form of autofocus which is face-detection. I am hoping the A7S III that Sony seems to holding back might have the processing power to do both HDMI/WIFI and face detection. The A7 III already has great low light, the A7S III needs articulating screen, 60P 4K, working HDMI output for 60p with face detection, and better developed slow motion. The IBIS also needs to up it's game. The closest camera to meet what people are looking for is the Z6. My 2 cents :)
Victor Aguilera (17 hours ago)
it's true but look at this, if you can record externally you can activate face detection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLn8gAGHrDk&t=322s
beatboxerjonasz2 (12 days ago)
everything you said its true. but even if it doesnt use face tracking, its stil tracks me amazingly in 4k and wifi. love it.
Isä Ankka (13 days ago)
PeterGregg my xt3 records 4k with even eye detection working
PeterGregg (14 days ago)
That would be big news Kasey if the A9 indeed recorded in 4K with the face detection working :) I may have to get that camera in here again to test it out to see, let me know if you do. Did you get my email?
Greg Nelson (14 days ago)
More frequent videos from Peter Gregg would make the world more "My day is made, and my pleasure is immeasurable".
Kory Easterday (15 days ago)
Filming on a Fuji X-T3 with a 56mm.
Sla pass (15 days ago)
Dude you're so funny I love this channel! Wish you could review everything not just cameras
Kevin Khachan (15 days ago)
You used the Dji mavic2 pro, it's obvious!
SEAKPhotog (15 days ago)
Congrats on 10k followers!
Red Bat Racing (15 days ago)
What the hell is jagwar?
Bernard F (15 days ago)
Eos r with 50mm 1.2
SmileZero (15 days ago)
You looks 10 years older on this video, where is my soft serve ice cream?
Mark Faust (15 days ago)
Two tips for the PlayMemories app and 'Control with Smartphone' for Sony shown in the video.... if you lose the wireless connection after fiddling with the camera menu directly by accident or otherwise then just go to your wireless list on your phone and reselect the camera WiFi (your phone auto selects another WiFi straight away and hence signal is lost). Second tip: The PlayMemories app (the part in the camera, not the part on your phone) is still an app that needs updating separately and does not get updated through system Firmwares on bodies like the a6500 you can get it from the PlayMemories site: https://www.playmemoriescameraapps.com ...... this is for the 'older' camera bodies and a list is there on the site. This does not apply to a7iii, a7riii etc 'Control with Smartphone'. Sony instated the 'Control with Smartphone' option instead for their latest Cameras.
Mark Faust (15 days ago)
All I can think of are excuses for Canon. Humor me and read on: Imagine Canon being the 'Enterprise Starship' and they want to investigate how a mysterious clump of Matter (that would be us, the consumer) behaves upon shooting a new type of ray gun..... would 'Captain Canon' risk using the 'Enterprise' mothership or would they send out a shitty shuttle for the test? Btw that shuttle is called the EOS-R and the ray gun is great but the shuttle is so crap that it never gets close enough to what 'Matter's.
Rillages (15 days ago)
I don't know why I like that intro music with the different verses. Keep doing that! I want to see the lyrics too...LOL!
FoodTechLife (15 days ago)
Did Tony N. send you a camera?
Pooya Rastin (15 days ago)
10k. Congratulations.

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